If I understand things correctly, this "religious order" is some legal thing that needs to be taken care of when a person willingly works for a long time without pay. Then they can't be called slaves, nor can the WT be sued for slavery. (the irony!!)
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VOW OF OBEDIENCE AND POVERTY
by Coded Logic ini didn't know the wtbts had an order.
anyone ever heard of the "order of full time servants" aka "the order" within the jehovah's witnesses?.
(below is a legal document from the wtbts).
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Outline - elders meeting with pioneers
by naeuca inif you happen to have the outline for this years annual pioneer meeting with elders can you please copy and paste to me in reply or send me the link i'm pdf please.
thank you very much know advance!
naeuca.
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Muddy Waters
Huh. Typical Bait & Switch. They start by saying an elder can do much to help others, but then quickly define that as being "spiritual help & spiritual gifts". God forbid they ever do anything practical or truly charitable for anyone.
JWs are the kind of people who, if portrayed in the Good Samaritan story, would lay a magazine or tract beside the beaten man on the road, then step over him and continue on their way, all the while thinking that they had done a very great & compassionate thing indeed.
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One of these days I'm going to get a new look
by stillin ini mean, just look at me!
i'm disgusting!
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WTBT$/JW's = AMWAY/MLM Schemes
by Darth Fader The Sequel inall of the wts tactics and procedures are based off of your most basic mlm (multi-level marketing) schemes.
take your pick of amway, or any of the other vitamin or financial mlm's.
they all work the exact same way.
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Muddy Waters
"All of the WTS tactics and procedures are based off of your most basic MLM (multi-level marketing) schemes. Take your pick of Amway, or any of the other vitamin or financial MLM's. They all work the exact same way. The power structure, phony hierarchy, silly name tags and graduated titles, public recognition of high achievers, special delegates to conventions and gatherings, exclusive meetings for high achievers, special publications for certain "leaders", hyperbolic testimonials....... everything. EVERYTHING IS AMWAY WITH THE JW's!!!"
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you know, this was one of the many things which helped wake me up. Our family joined "Melaleuca" and the similarities were so striking, I couldn't help comparing it to the JW meetings & all the things you mentioned above! The conventions and assemblies felt like big sales meetings. And when you met people, there was a sudden conflict of interest -- do you tell them about the Kingdom or do you tell them about Melaleuca?? lol
it was all so silly.
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TECHNOLOGY and COMMUNICATION: a look back at Watchtower merchandizing
by Terry inthousands of people in america were the beneficiaries of new inventions in technology in the 1870's.. the typewriter, the telephone, and the light bulb transformed something we may have never considered before.. communication was ramped up seemingly without limit for the first time in human history!.
pastor russell's customers were simple folks frightened by monumental changes.. what did these rapid changes really mean?.
pastor russell distilled everything down to the notion everything was understandable as signs of the end.. ____________________________.
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Muddy Waters
Excellemt assessment of their (changing!) business model!
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WT Library
by MsTruthSeeker2014 indoes anyone have the link to dl the wt library?
i was looking for some mag from the 1900s and see that the jw org site only goes back to 2000.
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Muddy Waters
Awesome! ty
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NOT on JW.org: Huffington Post interview with Director of new movie about Jehovahs' Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
by Balaamsass2 indanielle tumminio become a fan .
episcopal priest, life coach, and author of 'god and harry potter at yale'.
email.
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Muddy Waters
Awesome! Will be looking forward to this! Thank you!
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Of Pain, Growth, Change, and Moving Forward
by SnarlingRaven in"did you not in your discontentment make supplication to the great void, and to the darkness, to bring forth the mighty storm that lays waste to all that stales and stagnates?
did you not climb the treacherous mountain to witness the melting of snow?
do not peals of blinding light illuminate your face?
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Muddy Waters
Love it. Wonderful, soulful, dramatic and poignant. Thank you.
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A picture of a WT dream
by Sour Grapes inpeople stay jehovah's witnesses for several reasons.
the foremost is because they are taught that they could cheat death and not have to die or even better yet not have to get old.
the second is they can see their dead relatives again , who have a direct pass to paradise, and that we must obey to get there to see them in the resurrection.
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Muddy Waters
And why does Jesus have a damn white beard!?? If a person is perfect, he's supposed to never grow old, right??
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How did you feel when you got baptised? Seriously....
by stuckinarut2 inso recently, several over-righteous ones in the cong were discussing "how amazing it felt when they got baptised".
statements like "how awesome did it feel as you got raised back out of the water?!".
or the classic "i felt so close to jehovah as i came out of the pool"!.
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Muddy Waters
Brujadelsol, you said something which was very similar to the way I felt. Because the baptism happened so fast! It was so anti-climatic compared to all the great build up towards it. Afterward I couldn't help feeling like I had been in some sort of assembly line process. I blamed myself for not being spiritual enough or taking time to pray, etc.